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4:09:23 PM Jonathan Owens: I think it's notable that the truly great hip-hop records do not include voicemail messages
4:09:29 PM Robert Cooper: haha
4:09:33 PM Robert Cooper: It's the litmus test
4:09:49 PM Jonathan Owens: also, does it have 20 or more tracks? not great
4:10:05 PM Robert Cooper: oh really?
4:10:10 PM Jonathan Owens: multiple voicemail messages, and 25 tracks? your album sucks
4:10:34 PM Robert Cooper: this I did not know
4:11:03 PM Jonathan Owens: hip-hop records are typically padded to a miserable degree
4:11:37 PM Jonathan Owens: here's a great example
4:11:47 PM Jonathan Owens: dr. dre's /2001/
4:12:09 PM Jonathan Owens: vs. his seminal debut, /The Chronic/
4:12:20 PM Robert Cooper: heh
4:12:40 PM Jonathan Owens: the latter had 16 tracks, all of them good, and one actually funny skit
4:12:56 PM Jonathan Owens: it is often held up as THE g-funk album
4:13:07 PM Jonathan Owens: several years later, he comes back with 2001
4:13:35 PM Jonathan Owens: 22 tracks, several voicemail messages and skits
4:13:59 PM Jonathan Owens: the album strains under its own weight and importance
4:14:22 PM Jonathan Owens: I have 6 of the tracks unchecked in itunes, and that's being generous
4:14:45 PM Jonathan Owens: get that album down to 13 tracks and it would easily be on par with the chronic
4:14:46 PM Robert Cooper: haha
4:14:53 PM Jonathan Owens: but no, it had to be bigger and badder
4:15:00 PM Robert Cooper: Padding albums is such an alien concept to me
4:15:03 PM Jonathan Owens: it's the album equivalent of 24" spinners

wtf

it's snowing in ballard... again!

edit: thundersnow?!